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只看该作者 10  发表于: 2010-08-07
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  还想请教你,封闭抗体治疗和打免疫球蛋白是一回事吗?两者有什么区别啊?

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不是。打封闭抗体是从lg那里抽血,制成血清蛋白,再打到你手臂上,就跟小时候大疫苗针一样。免疫球蛋白,是要从静脉点滴,需好几个小时。免疫球蛋白很贵的,打一次要4000-6000元。

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levothyroxine是左甲状腺素钠,是一种调节甲状腺荷尔蒙的激素。但是医生说了,甲状腺荷尔蒙不是问题的根本,而是有这种病的人免疫系统一直处于高度警备状态,一有风吹草动就放出NK细胞,所以就算吃药把TSH降到正常,还是会有问题的。有些人移植前检查NK细胞正常,但移植后NK细胞就激活。所以有这个病而且有过多次怀孕失败的人,移植后需要隔段就验一次血,看看NK是不是活力过高,医生好根据检查结果调整药量。
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intralipids是合成剂,不是血液制品。国内叫脂肪乳剂。
http://www.poptool.net/health/dir_wdrug/1511/drug_280.html
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只看该作者 14  发表于: 2010-08-08
谢谢nycresident 的详细解释...

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再拷来一篇RIA实验室关于抗甲状腺抗体对怀孕早期失败影响的文章

Antithyroid Antibodies
In 1990, Stagnaro-Green demonstrated in a prospective analysis that thyroid antibodies were markers for "at-risk" pregnancies. The two antibodies studied, anti-thyroid peroxidase and anti-thyroglobulin antibodies, are collectively referred to as anti-thyroid antibodies (ATA). Many reports have since corroborated the markedly increased prevalence of ATA in women who experience reproductive failure, especially first trimester miscarriages. Pratt, et. al., showed that 67% of women with recurrent first trimester losses had ATA, compared to 17% of controls. None of the participants in either group had clinical manifestations of thyroid disease.

Although there is a highly positive correlation between the presence of ATA and fetal loss, no definitive pathophysiology has been identified. Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain this phenomenon. One hypothesis states that these patients have very mild hypothyroidism. Studies to date fail to indicate low thyroid hormone levels in those who miscarried. Proponents suggest that serum hormone levels do not necessarily reflect thyroid dysfunction.

Another opinion is that ATA are markers for predisposition to autoimmune disease, and that the latter is what actually causes the miscarriage. Notable is that ATA is present in up to 45% of patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE). In another study, 70.8% of patients with recurrent spontaneous abortion (RSA) had various autoantibodies, leading the authors to conclude that some patients with unexplained infertility and RSA suffer from polyclonal B-cell activation.

Antithyroid antibodies appear to be markers for abnormal T-lymphocyte function. Significant increases in the endometrial T-cell population and the cytokine interferon gamma have been observed in infertile women with ATA. It can be presumed that infertile patients who demonstrate ATA can be classified as having the reproductive autoimmune failure syndrome (RAFS).

Patients with RAFS should have immune evaluations that include blocking antibodies, ANA and APA panels, NK cell number and activity, DQ alpha genotyping, and gene mutations leading to inherited thrombophilias.

Treatment for Antithyroid Antibodies
In IVF patients, antithyroid antibodies (ATAs) are treated with intravenous immune globulin (IVIg) before the IVF transfer. There is no specific treatment for ATA in patients with recurrent miscarriage unless it is associated with other abnormalities.







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只看该作者 16  发表于: 2010-08-08
    
     nycresident:

              帮忙解释我8年不孕 3次人受  2次试管(取卵后发现卵子不熟 质量不好 未受精)  B超 血激素 均未发现异常


               但唯独发现抗甲状腺球蛋白抗体 和甲状腺过氧化物酶抗体高出正常很多  其他指标未见异常   我的不孕会与这2项指标

               有关系吗?  国外有这报道吗?接下去有什么办法呢?
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再拷来一篇RIA实验室关于抗甲状腺抗体对怀孕早期失败影响的文章

楼主:看不懂啊,能翻译吗?

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只看该作者 18  发表于: 2010-08-08
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宝宝快点来,你的问题应该是卵子质量问题。免疫不孕是在受精卵质量很好、子宫环境都不错的前提下,而成反复几次都不着床才会考虑的。

并不是所以抗甲状腺抗体高的患者NK细胞或T细胞都被激活了,但如果你这方面得抗体高,应该查查NK和T细胞活力。
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只看该作者 19  发表于: 2010-08-08
引用第16楼宝宝快点来于2010-08-08 11:35发表的 :
    
     nycresident:
              帮忙解释我8年不孕 3次人受  2次试管(取卵后发现卵子不熟 质量不好 未受精)  B超 血激素 均未发现异常
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          宝宝快点来  你好 我也是这两个抗体高,但我每次的卵子都很好,医生说都是优质的胚胎。这个抗体高只是会影响到着床吧。 
          我想 你的卵子不成熟应该和这个没有关系,你可以从其他方面找找原因,或者下次促排换种方案,如果你的卵巢状态很好,基础卵泡很多,可以试试超长方案,打了长效达菲琳之后会让卵子质量好点。